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PEOM
- The Gene Drayton Unit is a band, not a solo project is that right?
Mark Norton - Absolutely,
there is a misconception that it is a solo artist. Do you know where
the name came from?
PEOM - I have done my research
and I am fascinated by the origin of the name. The name came about
from a jacket purchased in a thrift store and you found the owners
name, 'Gene Drayton', embroidered inside the jacket. Have you managed
to track down the original owner of the jacket?
Mark Norton - No, to be honest. I tried a few searches
on Google, but to no avail. It would be quite nice if he knew that
we exist and were making good music under his name. We thought it
really suited the style of music we were making.
PEOM - He might sue
Mark Norton - Who knows?
PEOM - That is beauty of charity shops. You can always find
a little gem.
Mark Norton - Yeah, I have always worn vintage
clothes and you can always find something special in a second hand
shop. I grew up in the 60's and the clothes that I am wearing now
are the same as my parents and their friends wore back in the day.
I said to my mate the other day at an R'n'B night that we now look
like our aunties and uncles.
PEOM - Keep it in the family so to speak?
Mark Norton - That is one way of looking at it.
PEOM - Seriously, I was looking at pictures of The Action
and The Creation the other day. All the clothes they wore back in
the sixties, you can still wear today with pride.
Mark Norton - That's right, and I think it is style
over fashion. 60's clothes are good quality, they are a good cut,
nice shape. and you look great.
PEOM - However I do think being driven by trying to look
like something from the 60's and keeping it as a 'Mod' faithful
can be a little bit extreme.
Mark Norton - I agree, it can be obsessive. Mod
is a code. Its things that you like that define you as Mod, it shouldn't
be the other way round. You don't say "I am going to be a Mod,
what do I have to buy". I have had a Vespa since I was 19 and
I drive a Mini. I recognise these vehicles as the best of what I
like and that's the code that I live by.
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PEOM - Why do prefer Vespas to Lambrettas?
Mark Norton - Because they look more like woman.
PEOM - Fair enough. Going back to Gene Drayton, who is in
the band and what instruments do they play?
Mark Norton - I play sax, flute, and harmonica
and I do a little bit of singing. Toby Kinder plays Hammond Organ
and Electric piano, Phil Clark on bass, Mark Claydon is our drummer
and the new bloke, Clinton Hough is the guitarist. His background
is in classical and jazz; until only a few years ago he didn't used
to play electric guitar. He's an amazing player and a brilliant
addition to the band.
PEOM - I understand that you got involved in music around
1987. Was it a question of working with different musicians until
you found the right formula?
Mark Norton - The formula we have now is untouchable.
Our original drummer who left to go to Australia, came over to visit
last year and was blown away by how good we are now. Toby and I
have been working together since 1987. I have been playing the saxophone
since I was twelve - that was a long while before 1987!
PEOM - How did you meet Toby?
Mark Norton - We met through a mutual friend
PEOM - Not at a summer fete?
Mark Norton - No nothing that exciting. In 1987
a mate of mine asked along to see his mate's band. He said they
were really good, but would be even better if they had a sax player
(me). I went along, and was introduced to Toby and the others. We
hit it off straight away, and the rest is history.
PEOM - I presume that you still have a good working relationship
with Toby?
Mark Norton - Yes indeed, we are very good friends,
and in the 19 years we have known each other we have always been
in a band together. He's one of my very best mates. He's still the
principal songwriter in the band and he's very creative as a musician.
He likes to express himself via the music. The rest of us interpret
his tunes and turn them into live music.
I like to play music more than compose, but what Toby likes to do
is write and arrange for the band. We have done a few numbers that
I have written, but they are a tiny proportion of the numbers we
do.
PEOM - With regard to ideas, do you and Toby swap records
that you adore and try to emulate that sound?
Mark Norton - We do talk about tunes all the time.
What we are listening to influences what we write and what we play.
One of the big things that unites the band is that we have so much
in common in our musical tastes. You can't buy things like that.
If you are lucky, you meet people who have that got common interest.
So when it comes to making music, you don't have say I want to do
this and play it like that. You can explain with passion by using
examples from records that you love, like musical shorthand.
PEOM - That's the way a good band should be. If you go on
stage, regardless of what musical genre it is and if one member
ain't playing his or her instrument with passion or understanding
the music, then you might as well forget it.
Mark Norton - A bit harsh, but true. and it happens
all the time.
PEOM - You stated that The Gene Drayton Unit are mainly
an instrumental band, even though a few tracks feature vocals such
as '11 Minutes From Soho'. Do feel you might be restricting the
band in terms of mass commercial success that is, staying as an
instrumental band?
Mark Norton - We started as an instrumental band.
We are not bothered by commercial success, but obviously we want
people to be into what we do. We are players, we are not really
accompanists, that's a whole other set of skills. With the front
line that we have now, Toby, Clinton, and me. We have got good performers
who are strong enough to execute a song to perfection. Mark and
Phil too are great players and performers and we didn't need a singer
to come along and spoil it. And anyway, there are enough massive
egos in the GDU already.
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PEOM - Booker T & The MG's were a highly successful instrumental
band. Do you cite them as a major influence to the Gene Drayton Unit
and what other instrumental bands past and present do you rate?
Mark Norton - Absolutely. 'Green Onions' is a like
the Mod national anthem, and that's just the tip of the iceberg with
Booker T.
For years my favourite record was 'You Can't Sit Down' by The Phil
Upchurch Combo. I have always loved instrumentals. Even as a little
kid of 5, I used to sit on the floor with the record player and play
my Dad's 45s, and the ones I played most were the instrumentals, like
Duane Eddy, The Ramrods and of course King Curtis.
The reason why I formed this band is that I went to see The Sugarman
Three at the Jazz Café in October 2000. I phoned Toby the next
day and said 'We've got to start a Hammond group'. There weren't really
any around in the UK back then.
Because of our background being Jazz, people like Horace Silver have
influenced us, as well as many of the other Blue Note artists. We
all dig soul and R&B, but with Toby, Phil and me being a little
older then the other two, we were also into punk in our youth. So
there is a strong punk influence in The Gene Drayton Unit. We are
jazz group with punk energy. There aren't any slow or quiet numbers,
it's all uptempo for people to dance to.
PEOM - Do you think the axe man of Booker T and the MG's Steve
Cropper would like The Gene Drayton Unit?
Mark Norton - I think he would think that we are
totally nuts. He's a pretty subtle player. I went and saw Booker T
last year at the Barbican. I was knocked out. If you have idolised
a group like Booker T for so many years and you eventually get to
see them perform, it's a magical moment in your life. I was close
to tears when they played 'Time is Tight'.
PEOM - I see you pay homage to Booker T and the MG's by covering
'Big Bird', and more intriguingly Hendrix's 'Fire'. Was it fun to
change the dramatical sound of a classic sixties and guitar riff song?
Mark Norton - What we do with covers is make them
a little bit different from the originals. The Gene Drayton unit is
a five-piece group, and none of us is Jimmy Hendrix. We just give
it the Gene Drayton make-over and enjoy it. We have just introduced
The Beatles 'Hey Bulldog' and Cream's 'Strange Brew' to the set. We
played them the other night and blew everyone away.
PEOM - 'Hey Bulldog' one of the best songs The Beatles ever
did.
Mark Norton - I've never been a Beatles fan, more
of a Stones man, but I'm getting into them a bit more now.
PEOM - Going back to Steve Cropper and Hendrix. Who would
you rather jam with and why?
Mark Norton - That's a difficult question. I think
it would have to be Cropper, he's a bit more of what I am all about.
I don't play many notes. Hendrix is a feely sort of player though.
All the music was just flowing through his fingers.
However, in saying that, Hendrix used play with the Isley Brothers,
so he can produce those beefy choppy soul riffs similar to Steve Cropper.
Hendrix might be more versatile but he may be tempted to go into an
unnecessary solo, and I doubt you'd be able to stop him once he got
started.
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PEOM - Being an instrumental band and the line up you have,
would you label The Gene Drayton unit as jazz band or is your sound
more complex to put such a simplistic tag on it?
Mark Norton - We are a Rhythm and Blues band really.
PEOM -An authentic R 'n' B band as you once described your
sound?
Mark Norton - That's what someone said about us
and it became a convenient tag. Because the band's sound is constantly
evolving and we are putting new material in, it is hard to pigeonhole,
so consequently we do find it hard to find gigs at times. We are
too jazz to play rock clubs and blues clubs, to loud to play jazz
clubs, you couldn't eat your dinner listening to the GDU.
The places that we are playing are the venues with open-minded music
policies, such as The Jazz Café where we supported The James
Taylor Quartet. The Hammond scene unites bands from all different
genres and has developed its own live circuit, and all the bands
know each other.
PEOM - Are there certain makes of instruments that The Gene
Drayton Unit use to captive your unique sound? Obviously the Hammond
Organ.
Mark Norton - Phil plays mostly Rickenbacker basses
and uses a Fender Bassman amp. Clinton plays Fender Telecaster and
also Fender amps. Premier drums and Bosphorous Cymbals sponsor Mark.
I play Lee Oskar Harmonicas, a Selmer Super Action 80 tenor sax
and a Yamaha flute.
Using certain instruments does change your sound, which results
in you changing your style of play. My old tenor sax was a big fat
30's Conn, with a much more rootsy sound, like the 50's rock and
roll guys used to play. The Selmer is more nimble, and actually
suits what we are doing these days much better.
PEOM - Definitely. You can tell the difference between a Rickenbacker
and a Gibson SG.
Mark Norton - You certainly can.
PEOM - Where was The Gene Drayton Unit first gig and how
did the band go down?
Mark Norton - Our first gig was 5 years ago on
23rd March 2001, so it's Gene Drayton's 5th anniversary this year.
The gig was at a fantastic little place called BB's in Forest Gate,
which is the best kept secret in London. It's a little dance club,
which is the middle of all these terraced houses. It was converted
into a dance hall in the forties, with a nice bar and a small stage,
and a proper sprung dancefloor. Our first gig was amazing and we
went down well, though we did struggle to get the Hammond on the
tiny stage..
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PEOM - Are your gigs laced
with blood, sweat, and tears?
Mark Norton - Yes, literally. I have played numerous
times with a busted lip and Phil has got bleeding fingers. Mark
has been known to break his drumsticks and himself whilst playing.
I reckon it must be really exciting to watch.
People always say to us after the gig that we look that we are having
a good time. We put a physical and soulful performance and I think
that comes across.
PEOM - Worst gig and best gig?
Mark Norton - Our worst gig was the Modstock Festival
in 2004, and that was purely down to equipment failure. Toby lent
his Hammond to the guys who were doing the event. The band who used
it the first night blew it up, so Toby had nothing to play for our
gig, except the tambourine, not good for a Hammond group.
As far as best gigs go, we love doing the 100 Club. Every time we
play there, there is a buzz. It's difficult to say what's our best
gig because there have been many. Later this year we will be doing
our 100th gig since forming. We always enjoy playing the South London
Pacific in Kennington, Phil, and I DJ there too.
We enjoy performing, so we could play in an empty room and have
a good time. But if you're playing in a club and you're getting
a good response, that energises you and you play better. It really
is very much a two way thing.
PEOM - Who would be your ideal support with, alive or dead?
Mark Norton - What we need and what we would like
are two different things. We did get offered support to Ian McLagan
at the Astoria, but we couldn't because one of the guys was out
of the country. I was gutted about that. That would have been a
massive gig.
PEOM - Playing with an ex Small face, every Mod's dream
come true.
Mark Norton - Yeah, I passed that one on to my
mate's band, Little Barrie, who rocked the place. We also got offered
the chance to back PP Arnold when she was going to play at in the
UK a couple of years ago. But she couldn't make it that year as
she lives in Spain. When she did get over, she bought as her backing
band from Spain a full soul group with a brass section, called 'The
Teenagers'. We played with them at the Gijon Weekender , they are
well worth seeing.
PEOM - Her song with The Small Faces 'If You Think Your
Groovy' is a mind blower
Mark Norton - Brilliant record.
PEOM - How can people find when GDU are
playing?
Mark Norton - People can go to our website www.genedraytonunit.com.
On the home page of the site you can sign up to join our mailing
list. So if there is a gig or a record release or any other GDU
news, you'll be the first to know.
PEOM - What are the plans for The Gene Drayton unit in 2006?
Mark Norton - Well we have just done three nights
at the Spring Festival in Bourges, France, which is one of France's
biggest music festivals. We played there in November last year and
they invited us back for the Festival. The Buzzcocks and the Arctic
Monkeys played at bigger venues and we played the smaller clubs.
A great experience for the band.
The second album is out now. We have put this one out on vinyl and
CD. Quite a lot of our fans are vinyl buyers and we really missed
out by putting the first one out on CD only.
We've got some gigs coming up, all over the country. Going back
to Leeds soon, and we are doing Southampton and Portsmouth too.
Hopefully there'll be another Jazz Café support soon, they
are great dates.
PEOM - Do you produce your own material or do you have a small record
deal?
Mark Norton - We run our own record label, Disques
Carmel.
PEOM - Do you handle the running of the band ? Are you the
manager?
Mark Norton - We all have collective responsibility
for The Gene Drayton Unit. I look after the finances, Toby is the
musical director as he does most of writing and Phil does the website.
We all work hard looking for gigs and stuff.
When you become a musician, the idea is that you make music. But
when you actually join a band you release that there are loads of
other things involved.
PEOM - Is it an iron fist or velvet glove environment?
Mark Norton - Let's be honest, Toby and I started
the band. We wanted to run as a 'Co-op' band. There is always going
to be the perception that it's mine and Toby's band. We don't really
want to be like that. We would rather it was regarded as five equals.
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PEOM - Do the band socialise
a lot out of work?
Mark Norton - Yeah we go out quite a lot, we like
a lot of the same sort of music. We go to places like Ronnie Scotts,
Jazz Café and anywhere that's got a Hammond band on. As I
said earlier Phil and I DJ together, and that's always fun.
PEOM - As the band is getting a taste of touring aboard.
What parts of the world would you like The Gene Drayton Unit to
play?
Mark Norton - New York is a big yes.
PEOM - Have you tried to get The Gene Drayton over to the
Big Apple?
Mark Norton - It's too expensive at the moment.
With the gigs that we do we often barely cover expenses. Costs that
we would need to cover in taking a Hammond organ over the Atlantic
would be vast.
We have done many gigs on the Mod Scene with The New Untouchables.
This has given The Gene Drayton unit an opportunity to visit and
play other countries. We've been to Sweden, Italy, France, as mentioned
before, and Spain.
PEOM - Looking at press shots of the band, all of you sport
some sharp suits. Is being a snappy dresser part of The Gene Drayton
Unit agenda?
Mark Norton - Now that is the part of the band
that is ruled by an iron fist. I think it is important for a band
to look they have made an effort when they get on stage.
PEOM - That's right, a band has to look like they read same
books, watch the same films, listen to the same music and go to
the same clubs. Would it be fair to say that you have used the Mod
aceface look for The Gene Drayton Unit?
Mark Norton - Not as such. The Mod style is an
important influence, because of the sort of music we play. We just
want to look sharp.
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PEOM - You mentioned that
you have had support from the Mod organised The New Untouchables.
What about websites such as Mod Culture have they been supportive
of The Gene Drayton Unit?
Mark Norton - Yes, they have been. We have had
good reviews and support from David who runs Modculture. The Uppers
organisation too has spread the word.
PEOM - I understand you have a fetish for expensive shoes,
how many pairs do you owe?
Mark Norton - I have lost count.
PEOM - Outside of music, what other interests do you have?
Mark Norton - I don't really have time for much else. I
like to go to the cinema and gigs. I occasionally play sax in Long
Tall Shorty, who used to be a Mod revival band but they are shifting
into the British blues sound. Done the loads of gigs with them and
played on the album. Now I have switched to playing mostly harmonica
as Jeff their usual harmonica player is often out of the country
due to work commitments.
They are a great band. They have their own club night in Soho, once
a month. It's called 'The Piccadilly Blues Club'. You should check
it out.
PEOM - Good to see the blues scene is thriving in the UK.
I always thought it was a crying shame that Nine Below Zero never
achieved worldwide success.
Mark Norton - I liked and still like Nine Below
Zero. Mark Feltham is a genius on the harmonica.
PEOM - What about football or any other sport?
Mark Norton - Toby and Clinton are football nuts
and play regularly, but not me. I like to watch it though. I've
never set foot inside a gym. Playing saxophone a couple of hours
a night is a good aerobic work out.
PEOM - What is your favourite place in England or the world,
which you like just to hang and forget the world?
Mark Norton - Soho, if I want to be with people,
Regents Park if I want to be alone.
PEOM - Finally, What one song inspires you and still shivers
down your spine each time you hear it?
Mark Norton - It's tough to restrict it to one
song, but if I must, it's got to be "I Just Can't Get You Out
Of My Mind" by the Four Tops. It never fails to give me goosepimples.
PEOM - OK , I'll be generous you can have a top ten
Mark Norton - Cheers, here's the first ten I can
think of in no particular order.
I Just Can't Get You Out Of My Mind
- The Four Tops
More Today Than Yesterday - The Spiral Starecase
Whoever - Lewis Taylor
Gave It All Away - BBH
98 cents plus Tax - Detroit City Limits
Pick Up the Pieces - Average White Band
Get Carter Theme - Roy Budd
Green Door - Wynder K Frog
In Love - Tony Galla
It's Getting Better - Mama Cass
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On first assumption PEOM
thought The Gene Drayton Unit were a collection of 'musos' who wanted
to show off their musical ability to whoever would pay to see them.
PEOM holds its hands up and we can honestly say we were wrong. The
Gene Drayton Unit are hard working musicians who deliver a performance
with passion and pride.
Their respect for the beat, jazz and blues combos of the sixties
is inspiring, and gives the band a feel of seediness. Images are
conjured up of band breaking into a sweat in some back street strip
club in Soho, just to earn enough money to get a meal. Or standing
outside a public pay phone in pouring rain waiting for a promoter
to return their call, just to say they have got a gig in Lewisham
social club. Romantic I know, but never the less thrilling.
They are playing homage to the pioneering days of The John Mayall
Blue Breakers and The Rolling Stones with Brian Jones. In doing
so they remind us how that playing in a band helps to escape the
mundane existence of everyday life.
The Gene Drayton Unit have been around for five years and they will
not go away in a hurry. Mark Norton states that they are not interested
in commercial success. That might be the case, but they certainly
deserve it. A slow burner you could say. All it takes is a radio
DJ to be brave and champion the band. So the world can hear their
exceptional sound of sax, harmonica and the Hammond organ.
The Hammond organ has come a long way from 1935. When it was first
conceived as a cheap replacement to the church organ. Maybe if they
had become popular in the churches, most of us would be there on
Sunday morning.
Matteo Sedazzari
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